1st Anniversary Podcast with our Podcast Mentor & Yours with Omar Mo | TNN52

Allen  

Hello and welcome to The New Nomad podcast. This is really a special episode for Andrew and myself. This is our annual anniversary, first anniversary and we have Omar Mo joining us, who is actually the person behind the podcast that has made is as successful as it is. He helped train us, gave us support, counsel, technical assistance. Omar also has a fantastic podcast, The Nomadic Executive, runs Nomadables, we’re going to chat with him. And today you’ll learn some of the ins and outs of case you decide to do a podcast. And also I would suggest that if you were you reach out to Omar for the same type of assistance we got. Now, the other great thing about having a podcast is having a great co-host, and I can’t pick a better one than Andrew Jernigan. You know, just listening to him speak daily on our podcast makes me happy. Andrew, this is quite an accomplishment because we understand that most podcasts don’t get very far. Unless they have the assistance from somebody like Omar, it’s been a great time. We’ve learned a lot. What have you taken away from this podcasting season that we have had?

‍

Andrew  

You know, as we approach this next season, we’re about to launch into and we look back on this last year, I want to thank those who are listening. Because that’s, that’s the fun part about this is we get so much feedback and people that are saying, you know, yeah, this is great. So thank you, if you’re out there listening, sharing this, writing those reviews, love it. And, you know, my biggest thing is, you know, the people we’ve had on I’ve learned so much. And that’s that’s one of the privileged places as a podcast host is to get to have these sessions that people speak into our lives. Those before and after the recording stops when it ends. Those conversations sometimes continue, wow, this is, this is great. I get to do this. But we also get to introduce it to you the listener. And so that’s where it’s it’s fun to take it back. I think I first met Omar in Clubhouse back when that existed. It still exists, but you know, yes, I was in there today. I was in there today just kind of cleaning up, cleaning up my account. But that’s where we originally met, I think, and this has been a good journey. It’s gonna be great having him on. And so you can all meet the producer behind The New Nomad.

‍

Allen  

It’s fantastic having the wizard. And we’re like Dorothy and Toto we’re going down that primrose path. Toto. Oh, that’s exactly it. So Omar, thank you once again. You’ve educated us quite a bit. Why don’t you share with our audience, you know, your journey, but also how you developed what I think is also a tremendous podcast. And actually, I think it’s almost as we’re sister podcasts, The New Nomad and The Nomadic Executive, but you have, you’ve shown us a lot and I think a lot of people out here are going to listen and say, I’d love to start a podcast because I think I have a great community and something to share, I just don’t even know how to start.

‍

Omar 

Right. So I think one of the best ways to really get started not just with podcasting, but any sort of content creation in general really comes down to finding where are you best excel as a content creator, right? And your why behind it. Now if you’re someone that is an excellent writer, but any want to start a podcast, but you feel like you would hate talking into a mic and would hate video, anything like that there’s no point of view starting a podcast, right? Go and write blogs or start a blog or something that’s where you would excel, that’s where you will enjoy. Over if you feel like you’re someone that can, that has a has the potential to have a good voice behind something or is more of a talkative person in real life than not, or just enjoys banter with people that podcast is the way to go, right? 

‍

And starting a podcast, it really depends on if it’s something that you just want to be a perfectionist and kind of put out there you’re going to take forever starting one, right? You’re going to always find something new to do something different to do. And you’re never going to really take the time to be like, Alright, I need to just put this product out and start working right. Now starting a podcast itself sometimes can be as simple as grabbing your headphones, your Apple iPod or whatever you use, connect them to your phone and just doing a small little recording. I remember the first podcast that ever came out for The Nomadic Executive actually right before that I even had another iteration of a podcast and that first episode that actually keep up with it just kind of set in my closet to kind of shorten the space, pull out my phone, attach my air pods to it and did a little 20-minute episode just free rambling. Episodes long gone. I don’t know if it’s still published out there somewhere on the internet. Yeah. And if it is, that’s it might be embarrassing to listen to and go back to but that was my first episode, you know. Now was the best was it what it is now? Is it there anyone even listened to it? I don’t think so I think maybe had one random listener going. But I did the thing, right. And that kind of gave me momentum that gave me initial momentum. And I figured things out along the way of how to do things. 

‍

Now, if you’re starting from scratch, I think the lowest effort path that you can take from A to B is obviously number one, get a mic, right. Get a nice mic. People are listening to you for like 45 minutes, an hour, hour and a half, however long you want to talk 20 minutes, however long you want to talk. And if your quality sounds like was the entire time, no one’s gonna want to listen to it obviously get it. That’s a good investment to have. Pay like 100 bucks one time and just have a mic those things last for a long time. Once you have the mic in place, you want a podcast hosting site. Right? And a podcast hosting site, my personal favourite is Buzzsprout which I can leave a link for. And you guys shownotes we just funny that I can say that because we write you guys show? No, yes. So I’ll go link in there. So that’s Buzzsprout The best part is an excellent one. It’s a budget friendly one, and it tells you analytics and everything you really need to know. So that’s the second thing. Second part of the puzzle piece. Third part of the puzzle piece, probably the most important part of the puzzle piece. What are you going to talk about? What do you and my suggestion is always A: either what do you really enjoy? Or B: what you’re really curious about and willing to learn more about? Right? So if it’s a what do you really enjoy? I mean, you could talk about that for hours and anything that you don’t know you can fill in gaps with guests or research and be what do you really want to learn about. And I remember when I first started my podcasting journey about four years ago, I wanted to learn more about business. So that’s what I dove into, right. And I became a student and eventually, a teacher on my own podcast was a progression. So yeah, what do you want to talk about? Figure that out. And then once you’re the podcast hosting site, the mic, you want to fill out some of the technical details, you’re right, you’re going to need a podcast cover art, you can get a graphic designer for that. You’re going to need some show notes. We’re announcing descriptions right now for the podcast, you’re going to need some systems in place, give me some audio editing software, some video editing software, but nothing too heavy, you can look this all up, you can ask me, you can go on YouTube, really, there’s a few things that you can do. And once that is all in place, and it’s all just about putting in the systems just putting episode out by episode.

‍

Allen  

And you really helped us with also kind of having a format. Because if the format changes every time if the listening audience kind of has kind of an issue following. And even those of us who’ve listened to our podcast, you know, we have a standard question that we ask folks because we’re trying to get different perspectives. But talk a little bit about how you, you know, when you do a podcast, very big help not only format but having it prepared for each guest. Just to let folks know, Andrew and I before most podcasts, spend at least a half an hour to an hour, you know, doing some research on our guests, having some questions put aside. And then you even do even sometimes a pre-interview with your guests and what is on the top of their mind that day. So it’s not just a willy-nilly conversation. I’d love your feedback on how you prepare.

‍

Omar 

So, I mean, there’s a podcaster out there. I forget his name. Exactly. He’s a really, really famous guy. He raps.

‍

Allen

Is it Andrew Jernigan?

‍

Omar 

Exactly.

‍

Andrew  

No, no, no, I’m here learning. It’s one of those things. Once you start a podcast, you get so many people saying, I have all these guests. Don’t you want to pay me to have these guests on your show? And just the amount of people saying, you know, we can get you on shows. Give us 1000 bucks and we’ll get you on shows. And unless you got like I’m on your side, you know, to kind of guide you through this. You know, you are let’s get everything you know the services that you put out. I’ve vetted several folks in this industry. Before we before we said, okay, Omar, be our producer, your team, for the graphics, all the other managed services that you do is just off the charts. There’s so much more than just recording something. It’s okay, what are you gonna do with it? It’s kind of like having a business card, but never giving it out. Never going to an event. Or website, but never telling anybody the URL you can have guests on, you can record but if you don’t have the next step, and what would you say are some of those key next steps, Omar?

‍

Omar 

And there’s a tonne of different things you can create social worlds is all about promotion, right? Podcasts themselves, they don’t have algorithms behind what they do, especially Apple podcasts, Apple podcasts has a certain sort of algorithm that leverages reviews, subscriptions and downloads. But other than that, what you really want to be doing is promoting it on other sites, there’s so many different paths, right? The fun part about podcasts is that you have to use elbow grease. And if you have to use elbow grease to kind of get something going, you can be super creative and think outside of the box on different ways. Because the internet is very vast, and there’s many different places you can go on right? Places that people don’t even think about Reddit Quora, going in and doing something now called the SpeakPipe episode, which I can explain a little bit might be really helpful strategy, but it’s a more advanced level strategy when it comes to podcasting. Putting content out on socials, Instagram, YouTube, Tiktok, really massive Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, all these different places really massive drives a tonne of traffic back to the podcast. We’re just promoting it constantly bringing it out there. And being consistent. Being really, really consistent is super key. If you’re consistent, that’s how the listenership grows, I hope they come to expect that constantly brings downloads up, your guests come in, they value that more your guests promote it. I mean, there’s, it’s an ecosystem that kind of plays within itself and it all bounces off of each other. And at its centerpiece is the video and audio that you guys create by coming on here and being consistent. Allen, what was your question before that?

‍

Allen  

Yeah, it’s really about is the formatting. How did you when you built your format for the nomadic executive? And of course, we put a lot of thought into the format of The New Nomad podcast. You know, there’s different formats out there, you know, maybe a couple different suggestions for audience in the different formats, but also, how you built your format? And or do you just amble into it? Because I think a lot of people don’t know is tonight’s guests. So they do this so that you were really helpful with us helping with our format.

‍

Omar 

Sure. So it’s really dependent, right? The format doesn’t have to necessarily be like one specific format. We know what works because we tested this, and we’ve seen other podcasts and researched this for a long time. And we know what basic formats just generally working capture people’s attention in interview and solo style episodes, but at first depends, do you want to do an episode by yourself? Or do you want to do an episode with guests or co-hosts or whatever? First, what direction are you going to take it? Most people, most people when it comes to podcasting, take the guest route, right, they’ll be sit down by themselves on the podcast, and then have a guest come on, and they’ll have a conversation back and forth. And that’s usually how it goes. And it’s super easy that way, especially for a beginner because you’re not having to kind of put together all this content in your head or pre-planned content or you just vibing with a person back and forth and having conversation about a topic you both love, and it just naturally comes out, right? You couldn’t have an easier 45 minutes creating content of video and audio at scale without a guest. 

So in that format, the format that we’ve we’ve seen works pretty much the best that holds attention the best is this: You start the thing off with an intro piece, right? It kind of it hooks it snaps right away, something high energy comes in, someone wants to listen to it for a little bit. And after the intro piece passes, and you’ve kind of captured their attention in this first one to three minutes, then you switch off to what we call an offer piece. Now, an offer piece doesn’t necessarily have to be you selling anything, it can be something as simple as hey, guys, please go ahead and leave us a review. It would be awesome. Come back to us. Or if you really like us hit that subscribe button. Anything is a call to action of some kind, right? Oh, hey, come check out our website. We’re Insured Nomads, if you’re in need of any sort of travel insurance, or it could be even a lead magnet. Like I remember sitting yesterday with your coworker Krista. And we were talking about this at scale. We’re talking about lead magnets. So we’re talking about how there are things that can entice people to want to leave their email and by giving them value, right, and we came up with an idea of like an ebook for top 10 travel destinations or top 10 ways to stay safe during traveling, right things like that. So that’s something else that you could promote in that offer segment in the format, right. So anything that any sort of call to action you want in the offer piece. Then after that offer piece, then it goes into the client intro the offer piece. Then we have the sort of voice the professional voiceover I think this adds a nice touch to any sort of podcast you have. And you can really have fun with that one, like, depending on what the vibe of the podcast is, right? So you guys, I think has a South African voice is fine. Yes, it has this, I remember, it just has this nice, like nice African music in the background of South Africa. And that really just, it adds a smile on people’s faces, right? There are podcasters out there that change voiceover I remember I know this one podcaster that hired a voiceover actor to work with his podcast full time, that would change the voiceover every single podcast episode. And make it something you’d be like, Oh, introducing Pat Flynn, right. So there’s so many different ways you can play with it. But it’s sort of put a smile on your audience’s face. Now they’re hooked, they got a smile on their face, there’s a nice little crescendo coming up. And then this is where you actually deliver the goods, the podcast itself, right. So in the podcast itself, you have the whole nine yards.

‍

This is also where you can put something like in the middle of the podcast, you can put something where that you would like to promote, right. And ideally, if your audience has listened to you, but halfway through the podcast, they’re almost guaranteed to go and check out whatever you’re pushing, right? Because they trust you enough. They’re loyal listeners, you have 45 minutes with them. And they’re really invested in you, in a lot of your recurring listeners will be going that far. Right? So you know, put trust in you. I’m not sure if you guys have had this happen to you, but people reach out all the time, say thank you, or how you doing? Or I love your show or anything like that. Perhaps you want to be a guest. I mean, there’s just people that reach out like that all the time. Right? So Correct. Yeah, so it’s a, these people are like legitimate loyal listeners, you don’t have people on Instagram saying, Hey, I’ve been going and following an Instagram account for two years. How are you? That’s just another photo on their feed. These guys are like listening to you, right? They know you, they feel like they’re part of your family. Right. So it’s something that you get to something that you kind of cherish and you kind of build-up. 

‍

So you have your podcasts, your main goods, and that’s where you deliver the juice, you have a conversation with somebody, and then a lot of that comes with being charismatic hosts like yourselves, a lot of that comes with also having a charismatic guest. And when there’s banter back and forth, and some information, some value being passed. That’s really, it blows it out of the water. Then you have the then the middle goods, and then you end with the outro piece where it’s kind of covering and kind of wrapping it up seeing what you learned today. Maybe your final question, which I love. The final question thing is a really great way. I’ve had so much great feedback, not only from my podcast, but from my clients podcasting. That final question just always kills it for us. People I’ve had, I’ve had a guy that reached out to me because I forgot to say the final question once on a podcast episode. And he’s like, why didn’t you do the final question this week? Why didn’t you do it? And I’m like, Sorry, man, I totally forgot. I promise. I’ll do it for you next week, I promise. So shout out to that guy for listening. So yeah, people love those final questions, because it just gives so much. It’s the one anchor of that podcast episode that kind of gets people different perspectives, from different people that have the same thing. Gotcha, right. And it shows how diverse especially on a nomadic podcast like ours, you see people from all around the world talking about the same thing. Yeah, it’s a cool way to add the podcast. Then after that question, then you have the outro piece kind of summarizing everything. And then from there, I suggest throwing the offer piece. And again, it can be the same offer piece that you put in the beginning, just to kind of remind people, if they didn’t do the first in the first beginning, if they didn’t do it in the middle, then it’s coming at the end of the episode when the episodes over just to remind them one more time. And then from there, you end with the voiceover and tell people to come in next time. And that’s it. That’s the format that we like to follow in this format. We’ve seen the most successful.

‍

Allen  

You know, Omar, the thing that’s interesting about this is just a couple of things. When I listened to the podcast, when it’s been produced and then released, I learned something even though I was participating in the recording of the podcast, I don’t know how many times you listen back, you say that that was a great conversation. But the second thing is the feedback I get this is maybe a little advertisement for having a co-host is a lot of people really liked the fact that Andrew and I enjoy needling each other a little bit. And there’s, there’s some laughter and comedy. And, you know, it’s, it’s not the same old thing. And one of the things about is having humor in the podcast and are kind of making fun of our foibles and to the listeners out there, it’s also a real relief to having two of us because it gives you time to step back while the other person has a question or actually gives them the intro and the outro is a lot easier when you can kind of banter back and forth. And I tip my hat to you, Omar, because you do it by yourself. And it’s a lot to take on. But Andrew, your thoughts on that? Because we’re teamed up on this.

‍

Andrew  

Yeah. It is good. You know, my dog was barking a minute ago. So I can easily mute it, or vice versa, because we’re both dogs in the office guys. And so the conversation can keep going, we can message and say, Hey, you ask the next question because there’s a dog barking here. Or, you know, as it goes on it’s really good because we each have different things that resonate with a guest oftentimes. So the types of questions the two of us ask a guest, are going to come from different filters. And this is one of the fun aspects of co-hosting with someone is the two directions, you actually land within a conversation versus sitting in a cafe with one, just two people at a small table talking, you bring in a third person, everything’s gonna shift. And it happens that way in these conversations.

‍

Omar 

I’m curious, just under my own curiosity here, because I believe you guys are my only clients that are co-hosts, all the rest of my clients are singular, very singular people. What kind of what we’re on the topic of podcasts, what kind of systems have you guys worked out? That just like kind of on-the-fly type stuff? Like you said, you message Allen whenever there’s a dog barking in the room. What other kinds of small little things have you guys worked out as a co-host when you’re hosting the podcast?

‍

Allen  

Well, I’ll give you the simplest one is when one of us is coming off mute, that typically means the person is preparing to ask a question. So you know, it’s kind of like who’s going next on things we do use the chat button back and forth. We also, at this point in time, the body language can kind of tell things, I could kind of often read that. Yes, Andrew’s ready to ask a question, or whatever. But I would recommend to folks, if you have a co-host, the really the hardest thing is we don’t want to talk over each other because it gets confusing. So one of us will come off, one of us will go on on that. What do you think, Andrew? That’s a great question by Omar.

‍

Andrew  

Yeah, I think that’s one of the things we got very early on is okay, let’s mute. And that’s the signal of what’s next. And but you got to pay attention because okay, if the other person is still muted, still muted, still muted. They’re not gonna be the ones talking next. Oh, no, that means I better unmute and say something. So yeah, there’s little things but you know, the occasional text to say, hey, I can still hear that in the background. You know, those communications.

‍

Omar  

that’s good. That’s a good little tip if I ever get a co-host. So if I decide to go that way, which might be a big possibility, then I’ll keep that in mind. For sure. 

‍

Allen  

Well, and you know, Omar, the other thing that you helped us on, is kind of having the cadence, you know, usually there’s a particular question that I handle, and there’s a particular question Andrew, handles on that, but to our audience, I also think the preparation, and I know you do a lot of prep, I’ve listened to your podcast. And by the way, I always tell folks, if you want to learn about search engine optimization, you had a podcast that, to me was one of the best I’ve ever heard. I’ve had people try to explain to me how to enhance that in your podcast with your guests. I learned more on that  is having a couple of unique questions but not really knowing where it’s going, like Andrew and I’ve had podcasts that we thought it would go one way and we’d be on one topic, and it just completely goes somewhere different. And I’d love your comment, Omar. And sometimes the intellectual curiosity, I’ve listened to your pocket, it’s fantastic because you can go a lot of different directions. But when you’ve been surprised about how things go, because that’s actually the fun of a podcast is you learn but you just don’t know how it’s gonna end up.

‍

Omar 

So this is a question what relating to SEO? Or is it more like

‍

Allen  

More by the podcast? I mean, in the sense that you say you have a podcast that you expect to go one way, it went the other way. And maybe you’re not incredibly pleased with it, or you’re overjoyed how you might push to have that podcast out there differently, or, you know, in our, in our existence, Andrew, and I’ve only had to rerecord one podcast. And that was basically because there was some technical issues and it was disjointed. We’re pretty happy about that. I’ve never had to stop and say we never left the podcast and said that was so bad. It’s unreleasable.

‍

Omar   

Yeah, yeah, I’ve definitely you those. 

‍

Allen

Oh, really? 

‍

Omar

Yeah. But more early on. So then later on. But sometimes like, I feel like I’ve gotten hoodwinked by guests coming out with the sheets and then doing research for them when really, they put some really good stuff out there content wise. And then you get on a podcast with them and you kind of dive into it and you realize a lot of this stuff, they just regurgitated it from other places, copy-pasted, and they don’t really know anything about what they’re talking about. Right? So I’ve had moments like that. I can be a bit brutal with this, I’m definitely there’s some podcasts hosts that are more empathetic than I am when it comes to this. There’s some that are less though, but I think I’ve definitely had like maybe 10 episodes that I’ve never released and total, that will go first the way that if it goes the way that you know, you don’t want it to go talk about that. And I will talk about the way the opposite side of being over joyous. So if it goes away that I don’t want it to go, I’ll realize probably in about the first 10 to 15 minutes, I won’t be rude enough to cut it off completely. And I won’t be rude enough to be like, Oh, this is never gonna be released, it might be releasing snippets sometime in the future or something like that. Because even though it’s 45 minutes and won’t be completely bad 45 minutes, there might be pieces in there that you could use. But usually what I find out is it’s usually I mean, obviously the guest, right? I remember this one is not always the case, though I had this one. This one was a bit crazy. And I’ll give you two more extreme examples here. So one, I had a guess I’m not going to say his name for privacy purposes. Who was someone that I really admired for a long time right, and I still do. He is a coach like a coach slash therapist for men. Right? And he’s just, he’s just all about like, life purpose and all this different stuff, right. And it’s a very well put together individual, very successful, very intense, very intense guy, which I didn’t realize until I got on a conversation with them. When the first five minutes, I was being psychoanalysed on the other side. Wow. And I was being Yeah, and I was being psychoanalysed. And because I respected the guy kept going further and further and telling him things he got, like some really dark stuff out of me in the middle of the podcast, and I’m realizing this as this is going on. And I’m seeing all this stuff that I shouldn’t have said. And at the end of the podcast, I’m like, damn, like, this guy just gave me a whole therapy session. 

‍

Andrew  

Luckily, it wasn’t LinkedIn live, or you know,

‍

Omar 

yeah, it wasn’t live. Yeah, it wasn’t live.

‍

Andrew  

Watch isn’t gonna be edited.

‍

Omar

Yeah, I was gonna say like, and a part of me, should I release this is the most vulnerable I’ve ever been on this podcast episode, it could be a huge hit. Should I not release this? And then I decided not to release it. I just think it was a bit too much. And I don’t think it was at a fear. I think it was more just my podcast is about business and travel. And this went through like psychoanalysis of your life and the way you live it right. I don’t even think my audience would want to hear that. So. So yeah, that was one of the episodes that was recently not released. Another one that I had was a suggestion by illuminate. It was a woman named Genevieve. And she is like a sex therapist, or a sex coach. And we started talking about some stuff and got really raunchy on the podcast. And I just decided that’s probably not the best one to release either. So I didn’t really set what either there’s so those are two outlets

‍

Allen  

That might be your highest rated given the actual podcast.

‍

Andrew  

Yeah. That’s one of those things that what are you endorsing? You know, and that’s that.

‍

Omar 

Exactly. Is that? Yeah, I tell some really intimate stories on my end, too, because then she started playing therapist a little bit with me, it was kind of funny. I might still release that one one day, maybe, maybe between season one and season two or something. And then, yeah, and then but usually, the outliers are they just we just don’t mesh well. Either. They’re just angry people, or they don’t really want to be doing this or they just don’t really know what they’re talking about. Those are the ones don’t release. Now, on the opposite side, if you don’t mind if I continue here, but the joyous side, that’s always a pleasant surprise, right? Like I love the way pot. In fact, those tend to be some of my best episodes. There was a guy I think it was episode 40, which is which I always recommend to people to start off as they listen to my podcast, a guy named BezzFeed. And I found him on Tik Tok. And he’s a big filmmaker. He’s really good at what he does. He’s been a film making competitions. I think he’s going to be going to that one in Monaco sometime next year. And had him on because it just liked his life philosophy. From what I saw on Tik Tok, and we had a conversation. And he was doing the podcast off his phone in the middle of the woods. And when it got quiet between us, you could hear like the crickets in the background. You could hear like the ambience, the wind running through the trees, like all of that, and it kind of just added to the podcast episode. And we had a great conversation and they got really, really deep, like in a soulful level deep. And this is a conversation that does that kind of soulful level. deepness doesn’t generally happen on my podcast. And because it had that soulful level deepness, we’re talking about like, people passing away and our childhoods were like and things like that. That was one of the best feedback episodes I’ve ever got. So that was in a pleasant way. Yeah, so yeah, that’s my two cents there.

‍

Andrew  

Yeah, this is just one of those times when I reflect back. I was on your podcast a year and a half, two years ago. I had such a great time. You’re a phenomenal host. And I reflect back I was like, wow, that was a good episode. You know, I reflect Tayo Rockson has told by nomads and he is a really good host as well I just thinking back on some of the fun episodes I’ve been on. And that’s those yours and Tayo’s were two of the ones that really stand out because it takes a good host. That’s why I enjoy co-hosting with Allen is because he comes up with great questions. And I just sit back thinking, I wonder what the next question is going to be that Allen brings in you know, because I love to hear these, you know, see our minds at work. And we’ve got so many that are coming out in the next few weeks that I’m just I’m eager to hear again because there were such great interviews. So about your business, you have the podcast, but you have a business in producing podcasts, right? Right. Can you tell us more about the domain name, what the future looks like with that, etc?

‍

Omar

Sure. So domain name is Nomads Cast, it’s been a branch company that I called them Nomadables which have kind of started veering away from it’s still there as email still active websites still active. It just directs down to Nomads Cast. So all has a team at Nomad, right. And yeah, the company at its base is producing podcasts and creating content. So it’s like a creative hub that becomes an extension of somebody’s team. And we work specifically only with podcasters and YouTubers or people that want to start podcasts. Right? That’s a whole niche. And if you already have a podcast or YouTube channel, we take that podcast slash YouTube videos and turn them into pieces of content, while also helping you grow both of those channels. So booking you another podcast pretty much comes part of working with us or booking new guests or doing strategy going over analytics each week. All the writing, all the graphic design, all the video editing, all that comes into play with us. Along with if at a point we start needing sponsors, right, we start getting sponsorships, things like that. So a lot of different aspects of being a podcaster and YouTuber week we cover within our company. And that’s been going on now for about nearly four years. So,

‍

Allen  

Omar, you and your team do a wonderful job. Really do. And at the end of the podcast, we’ll put things in the show notes, etc. Love to ask you our question as as we worked on the format. Omar, could you share with our audience perhaps an overlooked person, place, experience that you think others should know about?

‍

Omar 

A degree of overlooking does that have to be?

‍

Allen  

Yeah, but if something that you really want to endorse also. I mean, like, for instance, what I love the fact that you helped us, I always wanted to do a podcast. And if somebody asked me this question, my answer would be, you know, what, if you feel like you should do a podcast because I’m not a great writer. And I like to talk. And I like to learn. And I like to explore. So no, it could be anything, Omar, it’s your call.

‍

Omar

You know, since we both have travel podcasts, I think it’s only natural for me to talk about travel here. And an overlooked experience that I think not many people on this side of the world at least know about, but many on that side of the world know about is living in a camper van in New Zealand. Right. New Zealand, I think it’s one of the most beautiful countries in the world in terms of greenery and what it’s got going on and how diverse the landscapes are. It’s an island by itself. And something that a lot that’s very common on that side of the world is renting out a camper van or buying a camper van for a few months. And just going and traveling the entire base from the top of the North Island to the bottom of the South Island. And there’s little spots everywhere on both of those islands, you can camp out, it’s just made to do that, that island. And I think it’s an experience everyone should have at one point, even if it’s just for a week or two. Just to see how many crazy different places you can see how many different adventures you can get into how much there is to do there. Right? From hotsprings to skydiving over lakes to well to see the first sunrise in the world that’s out there, too. I mean, there’s just it’s so it’s just insane. It’s a great place to do. It’s an experience that I will never trade. And I definitely think it’s worth suggesting to make sure you get Insured Nomads travel insurance before you go out there just to stay safe because there’s definitely lots of dangers out there too.

‍

Andrew  

Absolutely. Thank you for that, Omar. I haven’t been to New Zealand yet. One of my closest friends is from there. And I think about all the time we have. Yeah, I’ve got these other friends I need to visit. They’ve invited me several times. Allen, I think you have right? No, you haven’t. Okay. 

‍

Allen

No, I have not I’m gonna have to do that this year, New Zealand, Australia when it opens up.

‍

Andrew  

So, Omar, they’re there folks that are just listening right now. Because they listen on Spotify on their phone, and they’re just, they’re not looking at shownotes. They’re just listening to the audible right now. And they want to open up a tab and hook up with you. Not necessarily, I may not be connecting with you to build their own podcast, which probably others will be. But where’s the one place that you’d say they should open up a tab right now and find you and how would they do that?

‍

Omar  

I’ll give you three options, depending on how you like to converse with people. Number one, you can go on my website, www.NomadsCast.com. That’s NOMADS cast dot com. And go to the bottom and just book a meeting with me and we can talk face to face. Second thing that I’ll give you an email. So just Omar@nomadscast.com. You can email me there and we’ll have a conversation. Or number three, you can go on my Instagram. And that would be Mr. Omar Mo. Simple. Mr. OMAR Mo and shoot me a DM they’re fantastic. One of them might appeal more than more to you than the others.

‍

Allen  

Fantastic. And now I’ll add a fourth one. You should go listen to The Nomadic Executive where you get your podcasts. It’s wonderful. It’s it’s entertaining. It’s enlightening on so thank you for joining us today. Omar. We always learn from you. To our listeners out there. We hope if you have a message, you know, podcasting is a great way of doing that. Andrew and I have also learned a lot from our guests. And we continue to learn a lot from Omar. So with that, we hope you’ll join us again at The New Nomad podcast. We hope you keep traveling safe. We look forward to seeing and hearing from you again. Cheers.

‍